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3 points by thaddeus 5110 days ago | link | parent

I agree with most of what you're saying, but I will add a few things:

There are, generally speaking, two types of people who visit this forum. The first, type-A let's call them, are hardcore hackers, like yourself(ves), who are interested in the language design and the underbelly mechanics of language assembly. Then there are people, like myself, whom are only interested in using the language to build applications.

When I read: > "Arc would be a better solution for my problem if it had...", "It's more rare for this to be followed up by an actual runnable implementation of the feature." I will suggest the two types of people represent the divide within the pattern you're recognizing and I will going to even further to suggest this is not a bad thing. I would like to encourage more type-B user engagement - even, if only, so that I am not all alone :)

While I don't have the time or inclination to understand the full content/depth within these type-A posts, I do try to learn what I can even if only at a surface level. I really do enjoy reading these posts and do appreciate them so I hope they don't go to a back channel as akkartik has mentioned a possibility for.

Furthermore, I would like to highlight some of the points aw's message that I feel are really important (and with my interpretation):

* Inline comments are not the best way to present your ideas. I've struggled assembling all the bits and pieces and knowledge requirements from prior posts/threads. The order alone messes everything up and I simply do not have the time to do the paper chase.

* Writing an external blog post will likely force you to present a fuller picture, with its surrounding context, to an audience that can't always be on top of things.

All that said, please don't give up on the ideas, we need more of them - not less.



2 points by aw 5110 days ago | link

I would like to encourage more type-B user engagement

I added an "Arc Wish List" page to the wiki: https://sites.google.com/site/arclanguagewiki/wish-list It's currently empty :-) Perhaps some type-B users would like to fill in some things they'd like implemented? ^_^

Oh, and by the way, there's an infinite amount of room available in the wiki for other things such as proposals, ideas, arguments, implementation approaches, and so on. So if you're looking for a place where you can write things out and edit them later, the wiki is great place to do that. (You can of course also write your own blog post if you want, and we can link to it from the wiki as well).

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1 point by thaddeus 5110 days ago | link

I'm working on it :)

I took a break to write a blogging platform from scratch that includes my own custom markdown.

I even posted my first arc topic here: http://blackstag.com/blog.posting?id=2. I then quickly discovered the auto spam bots are moving from the arc forum to my blog site every night. So I took another break, lol, just to put some spam management code in. I'm glad had read enough of pg's code to implement some good techniques similar to news.arc.

Now I'm ready to do more blogging - I hope. I've accumulated a list of 9 or 10 posts and I plan to get some arc stuff in there as well.

I swear, I don't know how people find the time!

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1 point by Pauan 5110 days ago | link

"...there's an infinite amount of room available in the wiki..."

You sure you want to encourage DoS attacks? :)

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