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4 points by rntz 4540 days ago | link | parent

Wooooah. You have totally misinterpreted me here.

It's true I don't (well, didn't) have an account on the eval server. I didn't really feel the need to try it, not because I think it's crap, but because... well, it's a persistent REPL on the web. That's most of what I need to know, really, and if I ever need a persistent web-based REPL I'll know where to go - I trust it to be everything you say it is (and now that I've looked at it, it is; and it's swanky to boot). Just because I don't yet have a use for a thing doesn't mean I think it's crap. Hell, I don't yet have a "real" use for Arc itself beyond just playing with it as a sort of language sandbox - I haven't even tried firing up the webserver that comes with it! Does that mean I think arc or the arc webserver is crap? Hell no.

I have no intention of stealing your code. If you don't want to share your code, then don't; I tend to assume that Arc-related stuff will be open-source simply because it's common. And if you do share your code, I won't use it for some private purpose that "I'll not communicate about"; I'd share it back. That's how open source works.

The reason why I asked to see the source, despite you noting that you didn't intend to release it until testing it in the wild, was because I imagined (as CatDancer seems to have surmised) that the reason you didn't release it was because you weren't satisfied with its quality yet; hence the comment about "even if it has bugs or scalability issues or whatever".

The reason why I want to see your code is not, then, because I think you've done a bad job - how could I? As you noted, I hadn't even tried it when I made the post. Rather, I'd like to see it because in order to implement it, you have to have done some cool stuff (for example, AJAX, and some way of maintaining a persistent REPL) in arc that I would find instructive to read and possibly useful in the future. I don't ask with a purpose already in mind, but rather to learn; that's why I'm using Arc in the first place.



3 points by palsecam 4539 days ago | link

Sorry I was a moron. Source available now, see http://www.arclanguage.org/item?id=10427

> Does that mean I think [...] the arc webserver is crap? Hell no

Actually, on some points it is (IMHO of course) ;-D

> I won't use it for some private purpose that "I'll not communicate about"; I'd share it back. That's how open source works.

Sadly everyone is not as honest as you :-/ I've met some people not understanding what FOSS is about, and being big bitches about it, so I'm now more suspicious than I used to be.

But this is no excuse, I was not right to emit judgements about you based on my past experiences.

> weren't satisfied with its quality yet

Yep, was/is the case, see last item on the TODO list (in evsrv.arc)

> some cool stuff (for example, AJAX

Actually, nothing cool or magic about Ajax. It's just sugar (here).

> some way of maintaining a persistent REPL)

More magic here :-) Although it is just because of MzScheme being a very good language, and having namespaces and sandboxes.

> I don't ask with a purpose already in mind, but rather to learn

The noblest of all purposes ;-)

Once again sorry for misinterpreted and being quite rude with you.

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