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1 point by almkglor 5869 days ago | link | parent

Come to think of it, it seems that collections-in-function-position would make function calls difficult and/or slightly slower. And then there's the annotate thingy.

Hmm. I think to properly support annotate we really need to attach two types to the object: the real type of the representation and the user-declared type of the representation.



3 points by stefano 5869 days ago | link

Attaching too much information to an object leads to serious problems. Think about fixnums: they're usually implemented using 2 bits out of 32 as a type tag. This way you don't have to allocate them on the heap. If you attach an extra information you have to put everything on the heap (very slow for fixnums).

As of collections-in-function-position instead of returningm for example, and hash-table one could return a fuction that acts as an interface towards the real hash-table.

  (def table () 
    (let tb (make-real-table)
      (fn (key) (gethash tb key))))
This doesn't handle setting values, but I think that a few macros could solve the problem.

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2 points by almkglor 5869 days ago | link

> Attaching too much information to an object leads to serious problems. Think about fixnums: they're usually implemented using 2 bits out of 32 as a type tag. This way you don't have to allocate them on the heap. If you attach an extra information you have to put everything on the heap (very slow for fixnums).

Then let's not attach both types to the same object. pg's implementation creates a new object and attaches the type to that object, leaving the original representation object (type id and all) untouched. Basically we have an annotation type which just contains the attached type and the original object, leaving the type id bits untouched.

> This doesn't handle setting values, but I think that a few macros could solve the problem.

Looks like a job for settable-fn ^^

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3 points by sacado 5869 days ago | link

Yes. I implemented fixnums with the last bit as a tag-bit. If it's 0, everything else is a fixnum. If not, well, it's something else... Maybe nil, t or a reference to something else.

Your idea for callable collections seems quite good, too. But I'm not there yet.

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