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1 point by lojic 5835 days ago | link | parent

Thanks for setting that up.

I'm still hoping we'll get a nice way to get bugfixes directly into the Arc codebase though. No feedback from pg yet on the other thread. I am curious if there's a reason why he's unwilling to include things such as the date fix into the codebase. I suppose it could be just lack of time at this point.

2 points by CatDancer 5835 days ago | link

> lack of time


Everyone has exactly the same amount of time: 24 hours in a day.

Every task that a person does means that there is something else that they are not doing.

To incorporate bug fixes sounds easy, but consider for example all the fixes floating around for "mkdir". Each one fixes mkdir for their operating system and their version of mzscheme, yet it's time consuming to ensure that a bugfix doesn't break someone else's installation.

When a bugfix has been tested and used by lots of people and there is a consensus that it is the right thing to do, then it would be easy for Paul to incorporate it into an arcn. When someone simply says "here's a fix!", then it takes a lot more time to figure out if it is the right fix and if it isn't going to make it worse for someone else.


2 points by byronsalty 5834 days ago | link

This why the whole "network of trust" concept as it relates to massive distributed software projects is important. I'm sure if Arc will do well then PG will need to establish people whom he trusts to aggregate packages and give him only the good ones in order to cut down his personal time investment. Some guys on this forum are definitely knowledgeable enough and motivated.


1 point by eds 5835 days ago | link

> Everyone has exactly the same amount of time: 24 hours in a day.

Except for Le Monte Young :)


1 point by almkglor 5835 days ago | link

And Chuck Norris


3 points by jbert 5835 days ago | link

I'd imagine this is a significant help to getting bugfixes into mainline arc.

It would be a lot easier for PG to go through the arc2->stable diff than the arc2->master diff.


2 points by mst 5835 days ago | link

I think pg is hoping we'll solve that for him.

I'd rather have him thinking about language design anyway.


1 point by lojic 5834 days ago | link

"I think pg is hoping we'll solve that for him."

That's fine, but if it's the case, it would be nice if he'd mention that he wants people to just deal with it via their own ad-hoc systems.