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How innovative is Clojure as a Lisp dialect from Lisp expert's perspective? (
4 points by kinnard 10 days ago | 2 comments

4 points by i4cu 10 days ago | link

I'm pretty sure Clojure is geared towards being practical over innovative. Or at least that's how I see it. When I think of Clojure I think in terms of its stability, reach, accessibility, correctness, and the thousands of small, seemingly insignificant, design decisions that it got right. All of this adds up to Clojure being a great user experience that has garnered a really good community. It truly is the only lisp dialect that large organizations, outside of academia, should take seriously.

edit - just to bring home the point. I spent the last number of years on a project developing a significant Clojure code base with many libraries. And for quite a while (the last 2 years) I had been avoiding upgrading my version of Clojure, but when Clojure 1.10.0 came out a few weeks back I decided to do it. I was worried, but I only hit 2 warnings which took 15 minutes to fix. I'm telling you that's pretty impressive from a stability point of view.


4 points by i4cu 8 days ago | link

For what it's worth, I found this comment hit home with me:


"Looking at it differently: to "get" Clojure one has to understand that there is no silver bullet: no single revolutionary "feature". Instead, the gains come from tiny improvements all over the place: immutable data structures, good built-in library for dealing with them, core.async, transducers, spec, Clojurescript, not having to convert to JSON or XML on the way to the client, re-using the same code on server-side and client-side, and more."